Wednesday, November 24, 2010

Communications Fail

Clergy can't be more popish than the Pope - Palace

MANILA, Philippines - Malacañang welcomed yesterday the pronouncement of Pope Benedict XVI that condom use may be allowed to prevent the spread of HIV-AIDS, and urged local Church officials to take the same stand because “they cannot be more popish than the Pope.” [what a charitable insult]

“That’s a good step. I think our own clergy should be informed by the views of the Vatican [they're not?] because they’ve always referred to the Vatican when they stated their position, now that the Vatican’s position [what position?] is such then I think that should result in a corresponding flexibility on the part of our Church,” Presidential Communications Development Secretary Ricky Carandang said. [the Vatican's position has a flexibility...where?]

Carandang said the Pope’s statement could “absolutely” boost support for the Reproductive Health (RH) Bill. [Boost support? In short, separation of church and state is only applicable when the Church disagrees with you?]

Deputy presidential spokesperson Abigail Valte said a meeting on the RH bill between the Palace and the CBCP has been tentatively scheduled between Dec. 7 and 15.

President Aquino has said he is for responsible parenthood, including educating couples on how to plan their families and providing them assistance with artificial birth control methods such as the use of condoms.

“I don’t want to misquote the Pope. [You just did] I think he was very qualified in what he said [Of course. And you Mr Carandang, is very qualified in what?] but still what you can say [you mean what YOU can say] is the Pope has shown some flexibility [flexibility? Substantiate it then, Mr Theology expert] on an issue that is still controversial here. It’s not controversial in the rest of the world anymore,” [so what?] Carandang said. “I think the Pope’s position should inform the position of the local clergy [you mean they don't?]. Like I said, our clergy cannot be more popish than the pope.

[And like I said, people who can't understand the Pope's communications correctly should just shut up, especially if one is the head of Malacañang's Communications Department. Ironically, Carandang thinks is more capable than the bishops in interpreting the Pope. More popish than the pope eh? Does PNoy agree with your choice of words? Methinks Carandang wants to be more presidential than the president. This is a simple case of a super-lightweight in theology trying to interpret a super-heavyweight's statements on morality, and FAILS...miserably.]


Anonymous said...

Thank you for your comment in my blog at QUOD DIXIT DIXIT. We are on the same tribe and boat. Like in the Battle of Lepanto and our own La Naval, through Her, although we may be outnumbered and less equipped, in the end we will raise our "yellow and white" flag!

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you." (Sirach 4:28, New American Bible)

God bless you and your loved ones, brod.

Excelsior Semper

Red de la Rosa said...

Hi Will,

Unfortunately, Janet Smith and Jimmy Akin have done dis-service to the Church on this issue.

Many are following now their line of reasoning in responding to the misrepresentation and mis-interpretation of the media.

I believe, following them will only make the Church more rediculous before the uncritical public!

Please allow your readers to read this:
Moral Exemptions in Contraceptive Use: What the Pope really meant?


WillyJ said...

Ok. I will also point out our prior discussions on the issue here.

I disagree with Red above, yet it is good for us to study the issue in-depth.

Red de la Rosa said...

Hi will,
read this: Vatican draft document would approve condoms for married couples with AIDS
I don't know if this is true, but if it is, then it must be comming very soon.

WillyJ said...

Don't bet on it.

It is an old-hat report (2004? 2006?), that merely stirred the issue. Besides, the Pontifical Council for Health Pastoral Care is NOT tasked to issue definitive doctrinal statements, it is merely a pastoral office. It can give its inputs, why not, and that is likely what the Pope wanted. If you recall, the last doctrinal statement containing medical issues was issued by the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith (Dignitas Personae). At any rate if a Magisterial statement is forthcoming, it will only be through the CDF, or an encyclical.
Having said that, we must also remind ourselves that the book containing the Pope's interview (much misinterpreted as it were)is likewise NOT a Magisterial document.

Lastly, don't read too much of the National 'Catholic' Reporter. It is a wayward publication that goes south, and is often referred to by orthodox Catholics as National Catholic Fishwrap.